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lampshade



Joined: 17 Jul 2011
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This is not the first time the subject of cheating has be brought up on this forum. Here's a few facts I'd like to point out:

1. It is possible to cheat on this game. It is still possible to cheat even if pausing were not allowed. (Please stop suggesting this.) I'm not going to post directions on how to cheat.

2. There are some really fast Sudoku players that play using the Genina app, and they post times to the boards here. A time of sub-30 is very possible to achieve if you have good Sudoku solving skill, great finger dexterity, and a phone/tablet/device with a good touch interface. My best times in Easy are just over 40 seconds, and I'm a bumbling oaf (who happens to spend a lot of time playing this game).

3. There are enough people playing and submitting scores on a daily basis to ensure that the top 100 times are all excellent times.

4. I checked the top-100 times for all difficulties this morning, and there are no times posted that would require cheating. (Note: I did not say that none of the times posted were the result of cheating, rather that the times are all in line with what can be achieved without cheating.)

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 4 Apr 2014 04:56:23


Personal best times:
Easy 0:34
Medium 0:54
Hard 1:15
Extreme 1:39
MistyDay



Joined: 3 Apr 2014
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Fwiw, it took me 23 seconds, using auto pencil, just to add the number 1 to each of the empty squares in an easy puzzle. So yeah obviously they are cheating. Go ahead n try
mudphoenix



Joined: 9 Apr 2014
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top times on new phone using app

easy- 1:42
medium- 3:25
hard- 4:10
extreme- 4:25

I primarily play extreme.
AJ



Joined: 12 Apr 2014
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i sure would like to see how these speeds are accomplished....like someone else said..it takes at least 20 seconds just to enter 1 digit into all of the boxes, and i am not clumsy or slow ar anything like that. Im not a sudoku guru or anything, and I know there are math whizzes who are a lot smarter than I am. However it still takes time to enter the numbers. I wish someone would make a video of themselves doing just an easy puzzle and show me how you can possibly enter all those numbers in less than 1 minute. I simply do not understand how it is done.
Sparky



Joined: 17 Apr 2014
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Been playing sudoku for about 8 years(offline/online).. it IS possible to get records that seem like abnormal if you just get a good luck(sometimes you do well, sometimes you dont!), know-how on sudoku mechanics.

top times:
Easy: 1:07
Medium: 1:55
Hard: 2:58
Extreme: 3:28

i use Cell first.
Sparky



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MistyDay wrote:Fwiw, it took me 23 seconds, using auto pencil, just to add the number 1 to each of the empty squares in an easy puzzle. So yeah obviously they are cheating. Go ahead n try


Why use pencil when you can simply put down answer right away?
Easy should be easy enough so that one does not have to use pencil marker for most cases.
Joo



Joined: 23 Apr 2014
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They aren't necessarily using cheat programs, they are probably taking a snapshot, then pausing the game, solving it elsewhere, then filling it.

My Top Times:
Easy 01:31-02:38
Medium 03:07-05:44
Hard 03:53-13:01
Extreme 04:33-07:48
Joo



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AJ wrote:i sure would like to see how these speeds are accomplished....like someone else said..it takes at least 20 seconds just to enter 1 digit into all of the boxes, and i am not clumsy or slow ar anything like that. Im not a sudoku guru or anything, and I know there are math whizzes who are a lot smarter than I am. However it still takes time to enter the numbers. I wish someone would make a video of themselves doing just an easy puzzle and show me how you can possibly enter all those numbers in less than 1 minute. I simply do not understand how it is done.


It is because when you have enough experience you don't use pencil marks on easy puzzles. There are even hard puzzles I've solved without pencil marks(no extreme ones yet) because you can tell where stuff goes. For non electronic games I do the whole thing without pencil markers, because hand written it takes longer to actually write them and erase them all correctly than to just logic it out.

Some basic concepts, if you have a number in 2 of the 3 columns of a box, and 2 of the 3 rows of a box, you can guaranteed know where to place the number in that box. If you've got 8 of the 9 squares in a box/column/row you can figure out the last one by seeing which is missing. If you've got 7 in a box/row/column, you can generally figure out which goes where because one hole will not be able to hold one of the missing ones.

E.G

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 9
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 8
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 7
6 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
2 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 2
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 4
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 5

You know the two missing ones in the column on the right are 3 and 6. 3 coudl go in either, but 6 has to be in the bottom one because of the 6 in the row with the top.
jay



Joined: 17 Apr 2015
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i only play hard and extreme, I like the challenge
hard: 3:44, nowdays always well below 6min
extreme: 3:47 got lucky on this 1
taticapelli



Joined: 23 Apr 2015
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I've NEVER cheated on this game and I'm no genius, but I play it on my phone all the time. 90% of the time I don't even remember to upload my score, but my best is around 1'50" and my tenth best is 2'04". If that's so hard, does that mean I'm actually good??
 
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